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		<title>By: Kestrel</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.us/2009/11/intense-debate-active/comment-page-1/#comment-4123</link>
		<dc:creator>Kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, that does it. For the third time, a reply I posted DID NOT POST. And reader/commenters not being able to edit their comments is a deal-killer, not to mention the other issues you brought up. Intense Debate is gone; now I just need to work on restyling threaded comments. Probably do that this weekend.

Thanks for &quot;being a pain&quot; (which you weren&#039;t): I appreciate the effort you made to identify all the issues you had with ID. After all, my comments section is for YOU, much more than it is for me.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, that does it. For the third time, a reply I posted DID NOT POST. And reader/commenters not being able to edit their comments is a deal-killer, not to mention the other issues you brought up. Intense Debate is gone; now I just need to work on restyling threaded comments. Probably do that this weekend.</p>
<p>Thanks for &#8220;being a pain&#8221; (which you weren&#8217;t): I appreciate the effort you made to identify all the issues you had with ID. After all, my comments section is for YOU, much more than it is for me.</p>
<p>I think for my site, and my readers, the possible</p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.us/2009/11/intense-debate-active/comment-page-1/#comment-4122</link>
		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by Kestrelsaerie: New at the Aerie: &quot;Intense Debate Now Active!&quot; http://bit.ly/3P5RPP I&#039;d like to know your impressions....</description>
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<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by Kestrelsaerie: New at the Aerie: &#8220;Intense Debate Now Active!&#8221; <a href="http://bit.ly/3P5RPP" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3P5RPP</a> I&#8217;d like to know your impressions&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ and extra letters</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.us/2009/11/intense-debate-active/comment-page-1/#comment-4121</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ and extra letters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be totally missing it, and I&#039;ll look when I post this, but I&#039;ve not seen any edit abilities. 
 
Also (I know I&#039;m being a pain, sorry), you say that my commenting experience should be the same - but I&#039;ve had to make at least 2 attempts every single time I&#039;ve tried to post a comment with this new system. Maybe it just takes getting used to, but honestly, to me, IS a barrier to comment. Does it smack of laziness on my part? Certainly. But I&#039;ll think of your site as the one that makes it difficult to leaves comments, because so far it has. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be totally missing it, and I&#039;ll look when I post this, but I&#039;ve not seen any edit abilities. </p>
<p>Also (I know I&#039;m being a pain, sorry), you say that my commenting experience should be the same &#8211; but I&#039;ve had to make at least 2 attempts every single time I&#039;ve tried to post a comment with this new system. Maybe it just takes getting used to, but honestly, to me, IS a barrier to comment. Does it smack of laziness on my part? Certainly. But I&#039;ll think of your site as the one that makes it difficult to leaves comments, because so far it has.</p>
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		<title>By: @webwenchginger</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.us/2009/11/intense-debate-active/comment-page-1/#comment-4120</link>
		<dc:creator>@webwenchginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem, Kestrel :) [I didn&#039;t expect a link, honestly, but thank you for that]  
 
Good luck getting your visitors used to the new commenting platform. With a little patience, and tweaking within the ID settings, it should all run smoothly. If there&#039;s ever anything I can help with, just let me know! :) 
My recent post &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gingerwench.com/2009/11/why-autofollow-on-twitter-is-a-bad-idea/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Why AutoFollow on Twitter is a bad idea&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem, Kestrel <img src='http://kestrelsaerie.us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  [I didn&#039;t expect a link, honestly, but thank you for that]  </p>
<p>Good luck getting your visitors used to the new commenting platform. With a little patience, and tweaking within the ID settings, it should all run smoothly. If there&#039;s ever anything I can help with, just let me know! <img src='http://kestrelsaerie.us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
My recent post <a href="http://www.gingerwench.com/2009/11/why-autofollow-on-twitter-is-a-bad-idea/" target="_blank">Why AutoFollow on Twitter is a bad idea</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kestrel</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.us/2009/11/intense-debate-active/comment-page-1/#comment-4117</link>
		<dc:creator>Kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange...my initial reply seems to have disappeared. First, I want to apologize for not linking to your article in my post: your experience with Andy&#039;s beta of ComLuv for ID was enlightening, and a further impetus to me making the switch! 
 
As for CSS: I&#039;m no expert, but I don&#039;t mind diving in and playing with it. I&#039;ll probably do that this weekend some time. :) 
 
Thanks so much for stopping by, Ginger! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange&#8230;my initial reply seems to have disappeared. First, I want to apologize for not linking to your article in my post: your experience with Andy&#039;s beta of ComLuv for ID was enlightening, and a further impetus to me making the switch! </p>
<p>As for CSS: I&#039;m no expert, but I don&#039;t mind diving in and playing with it. I&#039;ll probably do that this weekend some time. <img src='http://kestrelsaerie.us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Thanks so much for stopping by, Ginger!</p>
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		<title>By: Kestrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew...lots of stuff! Let me see if I can address each point. 
 
First: If you go back through my posts with the tag &quot;blog comments&quot; you&#039;ll see I have been an &lt;b&gt;advocate&lt;/b&gt; for removing barriers to commenting for a long, long time. First comments here, unless they are flagged as spam by Akismet or Bad Behavior, get posted immediately, without waiting in a queue (just an example). 
 
Second: If you don&#039;t register at ID, your comment experience &lt;i&gt; should be&lt;/i&gt; the same here as it&#039;s always been, including (I hope!) the ability to edit your comments within a 5-minute window of posting. Someone will need to confirm that for me, though, and if it doesn&#039;t work that way, I&#039;ll work to make it so. 
 
&quot;...unless it is adopted on a wide scale by a huge percentage of bloggers...&quot; In order for that to happen, we need to start somewhere!  
 
Third, the way I respond to comments hasn&#039;t changed: While I can do so via email, why would I? My site is a tab away, is always up. For mobile folks, that might be an advantage; for me, it&#039;s simply a feature. 
 
Fourth, I will check to see if there is a setting for name length (there probably is, and it probably has to do with spam prevention) and I&#039;ll change it. If I can&#039;t, I&#039;ll bring it up with the ID devs. If they don&#039;t change it, then...no more ID. Since ID is free, I&#039;ve no qualms if it doesn&#039;t do what I need, and, more importantly, what my commenters need or want. 
 
Fifth, double opt-in to subscribe is just WRONG. I wasn&#039;t aware of that. I&#039;ll fix that as well. 
 
Finally, I don&#039;t know what to say about it remembering or not remembering your info. I can only guess that somehow the cookie didn&#039;t set the first time (which doesn&#039;t make a lot of sense). 
 
Thanks for your input, TJ, I really do appreciate it, and I&#039;ll let you know when I&#039;ve fixed the issues you identified. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew&#8230;lots of stuff! Let me see if I can address each point. </p>
<p>First: If you go back through my posts with the tag &quot;blog comments&quot; you&#039;ll see I have been an <b>advocate</b> for removing barriers to commenting for a long, long time. First comments here, unless they are flagged as spam by Akismet or Bad Behavior, get posted immediately, without waiting in a queue (just an example). </p>
<p>Second: If you don&#039;t register at ID, your comment experience <i> should be</i> the same here as it&#039;s always been, including (I hope!) the ability to edit your comments within a 5-minute window of posting. Someone will need to confirm that for me, though, and if it doesn&#039;t work that way, I&#039;ll work to make it so. </p>
<p>&quot;&#8230;unless it is adopted on a wide scale by a huge percentage of bloggers&#8230;&quot; In order for that to happen, we need to start somewhere!  </p>
<p>Third, the way I respond to comments hasn&#039;t changed: While I can do so via email, why would I? My site is a tab away, is always up. For mobile folks, that might be an advantage; for me, it&#039;s simply a feature. </p>
<p>Fourth, I will check to see if there is a setting for name length (there probably is, and it probably has to do with spam prevention) and I&#039;ll change it. If I can&#039;t, I&#039;ll bring it up with the ID devs. If they don&#039;t change it, then&#8230;no more ID. Since ID is free, I&#039;ve no qualms if it doesn&#039;t do what I need, and, more importantly, what my commenters need or want. </p>
<p>Fifth, double opt-in to subscribe is just WRONG. I wasn&#039;t aware of that. I&#039;ll fix that as well. </p>
<p>Finally, I don&#039;t know what to say about it remembering or not remembering your info. I can only guess that somehow the cookie didn&#039;t set the first time (which doesn&#039;t make a lot of sense). </p>
<p>Thanks for your input, TJ, I really do appreciate it, and I&#039;ll let you know when I&#039;ve fixed the issues you identified.</p>
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		<title>By: Kestrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the tip, Kirei! To be honest, I hadn&#039;t had time to delve into the settings...and I forgot that a lot of them are controlled &quot;remotely.&quot; :) 
 
As for the gravatars, I didn&#039;t change a thing. In WordPress Dashboard &gt; Settings &gt; Discussion Settings &gt; Avatars, I have &quot;Show Avatars&quot; selected. Under &quot;Default Avatar,&quot; I simply have &quot;Identicon&quot; selected. As I mentioned, I haven&#039;t done a thing at the ID site (yet). I do not use a separate Gravatar plugin. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tip, Kirei! To be honest, I hadn&#039;t had time to delve into the settings&#8230;and I forgot that a lot of them are controlled &quot;remotely.&quot; <img src='http://kestrelsaerie.us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>As for the gravatars, I didn&#039;t change a thing. In WordPress Dashboard &gt; Settings &gt; Discussion Settings &gt; Avatars, I have &quot;Show Avatars&quot; selected. Under &quot;Default Avatar,&quot; I simply have &quot;Identicon&quot; selected. As I mentioned, I haven&#039;t done a thing at the ID site (yet). I do not use a separate Gravatar plugin.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ, oh man</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ, oh man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AND NOW? I&#039;m visiting the site a third time? 
 
And my information from the FIRST visit was pre-filled, INCLUDING the text of my comment from my SECOND visit. It&#039;s pure insanity, I tell you. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND NOW? I&#039;m visiting the site a third time? </p>
<p>And my information from the FIRST visit was pre-filled, INCLUDING the text of my comment from my SECOND visit. It&#039;s pure insanity, I tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ, way displeased</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.us/2009/11/intense-debate-active/comment-page-1/#comment-4112</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ, way displeased</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, also? It apparently requires a second action from me to subscribe to comments.  I selected the subscription I wanted, I don&#039;t want to have to confirm it through email as well. 
 
Also, also, also? Where is the option to remember my information? Is that also only with registration? 
 
Sorry to be a total downer. I do appreciate that you like it. I don&#039;t care for it at all. 
My recent post &lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/temerity-jane/yJdE/~3/Cop5U8UIo9c/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;WINCEABLE!&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, also? It apparently requires a second action from me to subscribe to comments.  I selected the subscription I wanted, I don&#039;t want to have to confirm it through email as well. </p>
<p>Also, also, also? Where is the option to remember my information? Is that also only with registration? </p>
<p>Sorry to be a total downer. I do appreciate that you like it. I don&#039;t care for it at all.<br />
My recent post <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/temerity-jane/yJdE/~3/Cop5U8UIo9c/" target="_blank">WINCEABLE!</a></p>
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		<title>By: TJ, displeased</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ, displeased</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, I&#039;m not a fan of barriers to commenting, as I believe we have discussed in the past, so I&#039;m immediately not a fan of anything requiring registration. Now, I see that ID doesn&#039;t require registration, but from what I understand, all of the benefits to the reader come with registration. 
 
So, honestly, I don&#039;t really get the point, unless it is adopted on a wide scale by a huge percentage of bloggers, thus making registration at least somewhat worthwhile. 
 
I do appreciate, though, that it lets you respond to comments in a way you&#039;re happier with. 
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Also? I&#039;m adding this on with my second attempt to comment. I just tried to comment and it told me my name was too long or too short - apparently, only 3 to 20 characters is allowed. 
 
That right there is a great big deal breaker, in my book. 
My recent post &lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/temerity-jane/yJdE/~3/Cop5U8UIo9c/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;WINCEABLE!&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, I&#039;m not a fan of barriers to commenting, as I believe we have discussed in the past, so I&#039;m immediately not a fan of anything requiring registration. Now, I see that ID doesn&#039;t require registration, but from what I understand, all of the benefits to the reader come with registration. </p>
<p>So, honestly, I don&#039;t really get the point, unless it is adopted on a wide scale by a huge percentage of bloggers, thus making registration at least somewhat worthwhile. </p>
<p>I do appreciate, though, that it lets you respond to comments in a way you&#039;re happier with.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Also? I&#039;m adding this on with my second attempt to comment. I just tried to comment and it told me my name was too long or too short &#8211; apparently, only 3 to 20 characters is allowed. </p>
<p>That right there is a great big deal breaker, in my book.<br />
My recent post <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/temerity-jane/yJdE/~3/Cop5U8UIo9c/" target="_blank">WINCEABLE!</a></p>
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